1. I was actually able to laugh at the new Brooke Shield’s Volkswagen commercial.
2. I have been able to hear about my estranged sister-in-laws children without needing to go into the bathroom and cry. This is real progress.
3. I no longer have to pretend not to like children---I am in a new stage of actually finding them unlikable. Sorry to all of you mother's and father's. I feel sure one day I will like children again. Lately I just find them loud and annoying. I am the woman who is unsympathetic when your child cries and throws a scene in a restaurant. You can feel the energy I am sending you with my eyes, " can't you get that child under control and if not could you please leave." Please remember that I spent over $100,000 and went through countless procedures to have such a screaming, squirmy, and sticky thing of my own. So, some of my animus is my own issue and it is best to view my antipathy towards your toddler as pure envy.
4. I did not look at our new medical insurance policy to see if they would pay for me to go to Cornell and go through some painful and horrible procedures that would ultimately...not work. I did briefly look at their adoption benefits and then hurriedly moved onto what kind of psychotherapy benefits they provide.
5. I was able to finally read Petite Anglaise’s book. I had long been unable to even hear the word Tadpole with out sobbing that I would never have my own baby weasel. I didn’t even have to skip the paragraphs in which she described sweet and tender mother and child moments that would have usually unleashed a storm of tears.
6. I am at the point that I will take any one down who will tell me now that He-weasel has a good job and that I can relax that I will get pregnant. I mean, I cannot be responsible for what I do if you say this to me. What that will look like will be me screaming and making crazy eyes. But, this is a long ways from me wishing it were true. So, um, progress not perfection. Right?
7. I just recently paid off my last IVF cycle. And, it only was excruciatingly painful to pay money for something that didn't work. It was not torture. The difference between excruciatingly painful and torture may seen insignificant to you. However, there is a difference.


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I'm so glad that you are making progress. Any luck with that lovely puppy you were eyeing? Not that a puppy is a replacement for what you so longed for or Mr. Inkey, but they are great for the soul.
I feel you on the not liking children thing. I am not sure if I want any at all, but I sometimes think 'maybe one...'. I like the baby my friend just had, but in general I do not like most people's children. I do not offer to babysit, I am in agony in flights where babies scream (though I do sympathize somewhat with the parents) and I do not have patience for children who are allowed to run amock in the salon where I work. Hands in makeup testers....I have been thisclose to punching a hole in a wall.
I'm sure I would love my own if I had one...but...eh. I'm really content with my dog.
Hugs:)
As a mother, no offense taken. I don't much like children either (my own excepted of course).
Glad to hear you're making progress!
Shar: No puppy progress. The woman who has my Roxy NEVER called me back!!! I do think it is wise to wait a little longer. I don't think I am ready for a puppy. I have never had one and I am learning that puppies are a lot of work.
I am not sure how I got to the point of not liking children. I think it was a fake it to you make it kind of deal. But it is soooo nice to be there.
Children at Whole Foods sticking their grimy fingers in the food bar has cured me of their chicken salad. And, I admire that you have never punched a wall. I am not sure I would have gotten to that point much sooner.
I am at a coffee bean right now and I hear an infant crying and it hurts my ears like fingernails to a chalkboard.
iheartfashion: It is great to hear that their are parents who feel as I do. Even with all my antipathy about rug-rats, I do love children in specific--but in general I am not feeling it. So if I met your kids I am sure I would grow to adore them pretty quickly.:-)
Onward and upward. Where else can you go, right? Glad to hear of your good progress this year.
For what it's worth, I don't like every child I meet -- no more than I like every adult I meet. I take them on a case-by-case basis. And I can tell you that the ones who haven't had proper "home training" by their parents and make it evident in public don't get my sympathy. Their parents get my stare of white-hot, instant death. I object to children who pose trouble of any sort to others, a value that has guided my own adventures in parenting.
xo --
M.
M: Expect an email from me today. I am not even going to bother with excuses. But, you know I have moved and I have no internet( I am at a Coffee bean).
Anyways, yep, no not all kids or adults are worthy of love. But, in the past I would fall in love with every kid I saw. No more.
I think very few children or parents have taken your course of "home training." Many parents think that their children's bad behavior is adorable. It is not!
xo
La belette, regarding point 2, I don't like all children either and sometimes I don't even like my own. I still love them, but 'like' can be a challenge sometimes.
I'm glad you feel you are making progress with this issue. I'm sending you a virtual hug. I think it might do us both good!
Notsupermum: I am being so honest when I tell you that I was afraid of a=offending parents with my point #3. It is so great to hear that even parents share my feelings.
And, yes, I totally need that virtual hug.I have sent one back to ((you!))
Just start watching SUPERNANNY on Wednesday nights (soon to be Friday nights in October) to see what holy hell kids can be (are!).
A pup is a piece of cake comparativly speaking IMO.
Painting a piece of cake is another matter altogether..ahem
Hope you get you're internet fixed soon!
Carol: That is a good one. Super Nanny should be a part of every birth control program for high school students.
You are definitely in cake mode! I could take care of a pup easier than I could paint a puppy.;-)
Thanks! I am stuck in cafe's until they fix it. I am hoping they get it resolved today.
La Belette, sorry yes that should have been point 3 not 2! I was feeling a bit mithered by my teenager-in-waiting (see my post today for further reassurance that it can be difficult to like your own children sometimes).
Please take a photo of your "crazy eyes" look so I can compare it to Heather Mills's "crazy eyes" look.
Personally, I'm exhausted from visiting my pregnant sister this weekend and spending HOURS watching her stomach move. It was interesting the first time and that's all!
Notsupermum: Ooh, adolescents! Yeah, I have never envied anyone their adolescent children. The good news is that they become adults. Definitely sending you another hug.xoxo
WendyB: Babies get boring, especially when they are in utero. Can't play peek-a-boo or do anything fun at that point. I hear it gets better when they come out.;-)
Oh, and my eyes, think more Linda Blair and Heather Mills combined. The pupils turn red and steam comes out my nose. This look cannot be photographed as it is literally a look that kills.;-)
I am still in the "trying the old fashioned way" phase, the pre drugs and injectables phase ...and every month is a damn roller coaster of emotions. ...and there is usually at least one day where I think logically about what comes with kids and how much sleep I'm going to lose and I think ...MAYBE I ACTUALLY DON'T WANT KIDS YET AND I'M JUST FORCING THE ISSUE BECAUSE I'M 32 - and didn't get knocked up on the first try!
Believe me, there are some kids that I loathe. And loathe isn't strong enough a word for a few of them.
It makes me want to smack... their parents.
I agree with notsupermum. I definitely do not like my own kids sometimes.
Although I (finally, and after much trial and error) got the two little monsters I wanted, I admit that I often feel curious about what my life might be like now if I hadn't. And if I'm honest, I think I'd quite like to have been able to try out both lives in parallel. It's too bad that choices have to be made and that often, it's not us that gets to make them.
I'm with iheartfashion, my own kids are annoying often and other peoples forget it. Quite simply there are some kids in life you like adn there are others you could cheerfully stick pins in - metephorically speaking, I do it with my eyes they become evil. Mind you none of this is of any use to you but take comfort from your pain and disappointment it's the same the other way round. How ridiculous is that!
I really don't think it is a matter of relax. My sister had a child naturally and now they can't - one cycle of IVF didn't work adn they'll do it one more time but then forget it as it is so horrendous, the hormone f*** up. It is a friggin lottery and best not to think about the whys or whynots.
I used to love my life with my Mr MD&M but kids interfere with it. What a sourpuss I am!!
PS my kids are very well behaved I make sure of that, it requires soooo much effort but I want them to be part of society and liked.
I'm not their friend I'm their mother. Loving them means only helping them safely to adult hood to be what they want...
Maegan: Oh,I hope and pray you will never-ever-ever find your feet in the stirrups of a reproducitve endicrinoloigst. Really, sex is sooo much more fun than shots, hormones and paying large sums of money to MD's.
I know that with having and not having kids there are pluses and minuses. As the days go on I am able to see more of the pluses.
I think that m.d.'s suggest that after 30 if you have tried for a year and had no results that you should see a doctor at that point. Doesn't sound like you are at that point yet.
Kristen: This is really so good to hear. I feel much less like a monster. I think I was so far in the desperate longing for kids that I LOVED all of them. Now I have swung to the other side. I feel sure after some time I will end up in the middle.
Lesley: I have often heard friends say that they wish they hadn't married ( it is not uncommon), but it is so very rare to hear anyone openly wish they hadn't had kids. I think there is either too strong of a taboo that prevents it or people just never feel that way. I am guessing it is the former and not the latter.
I am sure that a satisfying life can be had with or without. No path is superior. No, I don't believe that. I still think that having kids is better. I will have more freedom and less work and more sleep. But, you have more love in your life and get to know the kind of unconditional love that only parents and saints know. I envy you that. :-)
La Belette, Miss J is pleased to read you are making progress. Children melting down in restaurants IS freaking annoying. Not necessarily an indication of actually not liking them. Miss J would rather stick needles in her ears than have her dinner interupted by some child whose parents need to remove them from the room but instead just sit there. Miss J sends her evil eye to Mom & Dad on that one.
If you go to one of those adoption intro meetings, you WILL end up adopting. Miss J and the Mister attended one held by LA County. They were mortified at the folks "wanting" to adopt & foster, that is to say get money from the county for takin' in some kid. ("So whatcha mean I can't have no felons livin' on my property if I adopt? Not even in the garage?")It was appalling. Miss J felt awful for the kid she might have saved from such a fate but alas it was not in the cards at the time to adopt. Miss J can't pretend to understand La B's sorrow. She has never cared about having a baby of her own. But she will say this: Miss J has had almost ZERO contact with her birth father over the years. He preferred to abandon his responsibilities, whatevs... DNA does not a parent make. Miss J does know that La Belette has much to offer if adoption ever becomes an option.
MIss J look forward to meeting La Belette soon.
I have mixed emotions regarding the various opinions expressed here. I'm not even sure which emotions I actually embrace. Suffice to say, I am glad you are coming to terms (at least somewhat) with where you are currently, which will allow you to move forward towards where you need to be next.
Make do: This is so great. You all are making me feel so much better about my newfound child loathing!
No, there is no way that I could become pregnant by relaxing if countless IVFs, IUIs and drugs didn't do it. It just is not happening. And, if one more person tries to tell me that it will I am going to graduate from evil eyes to evil fists.;-)
I read that marital satisfaction between the childless is much higher than those blessed with kids. Everything has a trade off. I do have to say that all that He-weasel and I endured has made us much closer. I am grateful for that. Something good had to come out of all that misery.
I really appreciate, and your children will one day also appreciate, your efforts to make them polite and well behaved. It seems that the new trend in parenting is indulgence and creating little monsters who are incapable of simple phrases such as please and thank you. My imaginary children would have known how to say those words.;-)
When I married my husband at age 30, (he was 35) he was divorced with three children 11, 8 and 7. He didn't want any more children, understandably so. I was always of the mind in my late teens and twenties if I married and had children, that would be great, if I didn't (have children that is, I did always want to marry) that would be okay too. So we didn't have any kids together, but I have really been okay with that. Occasionally I have wondered if I would have been able to conceive and been a good mom. But I think I have been a pretty good stepmom, and stepgrandma now (although maybe not a great step-mother-in-law at the moment, in my daughter-in-law's eyes as you know!) And I think I am a good 'mom' to my dogs. I think nurturing and caring and being a mom sort of encompasses a lot of areas of life...and I know you were the best of moms to Inkey!
Miss Janey: I do feel sympathetic towards children who are taken to places that are not child friendly. Yet, when I go to a really nice restaurant that was intended to be for adults I just don't want to have my meal interrupted by a screaming baby. Isn't that what God made baby sitters for?
However, if I am at a family restaurant my patience is a little more available. Context is everything.
We almost adopted and we had the adoption fall through at the last moment. And, I just don't have it in me to put my heart in a blender and pulse it to bits again. Sorry for such a harsh image, but that is how it felt.
I really wish I had not had the desire. Actually at the times I shouted out something akin to prayers I would ask to have the desire taken away. I mean, if the diety was not going to give me a baby the kind thing to do was to take away my longing. Well, that didn't happen.
My father I lived with was not a parent in any real sense. And, I think it was the miserable relationship with him that made me wait until my 30's to start trying. I had to much of my own work to do before I had the emotional where with all to care for a child.
And, yes, I very much look forward to meeting and celebrating your bday!!
NJNRR: Did you see all the nice things I said about you yesterday?? Did you miss the Ermine awards?
I am grateful for the progress I have made. It sucks to be crying all the time. I do think the grief was complicated by all the IVF hormones and everything that happens after. I know this is a wound that I will always carry. I am just grateful that is not a festering wound that requires my full attention.
Kelly:I have to say that it is obvious that you are a good mom
(and a Stepmom, in my opinion). It sounds like you have no regrets and feel really good about your avenues for mothering. That is fantastic.
Sniff. Yikes, never know when those tears are going to come. Well here they are. I miss my Inks. He was very much my baby and I miss him so.
Off to get a kleenex....
xo
Ma belle, I'm proud of you, you're making many progresses.
This is something that will be always present (believe me I know and I can't lie to you)in some moments.
But slowly you become to accept some things with a different mind.
I still say to Hubby when there's a kid crying in a restaurant "Please someone give food to that child, to full her/his mouth" I know it's not kind, but.... it's a defensive way we have to not become too attached to children that aren't ours.
Keep moving forward darling on the way where you need to be next.
xoxo
You're moving along. I'm proud of you and hope that each day will get better.
I did wonder how you'd negotiate that very aspect of Petite's book, so I'm glad to hear you were able to get through it alright. I admire you tremendously for your openness in owning and moving through your pain and grief. Hugs.
The part about "relaxing", I rolled my eyes on your behalf.
X S
After your last response to my last comment I am trying desperately to come up with something witty so that you will run from the room to grab He-Weasel to read my comment. So here goes: you are really only missing out on kids' cartoons these days. Some are quite funny. Everything else having to do with children is ... meh. Oh, and the snack food. The snack food can be good.
Late to the party, but that's good progress! It may never be easy, but it will get easier.
Just don't drink the coffee at Coffee Bean. It's swill.
I never intended to have children, I was going to live a wild gypsy style life full of lovers and travel (wow that didn't go to plan AT ALL). I do still long for that life sometimes - to be able to cuddle a baby, play with a toddler and then HAND IT BACK. I'm trying to say I understand what you are saying and appreciate with you how far you've come. You will find peace with this issue one day I am sure of it. I was going to end with a virtual hug, but what the hell, lets do an virtual impromptu tango instead!!
Some kids are annoying but not all...you know what. I rather have my k9 babies for now...hee!
La Belette I'm having a 'crisis'... need your expertise & advice, please visit me ok...& reply please. merci!
Hello darling. Nothing special to add except huge enormous hugs and whatever Belgian beauty products take your fancy.
You are amazing. Your spirit and humour about such sadness is really wonderful.
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I can barely imagine what you've been through, but that you're able to start letting go of all those intense emotions and start moving on with your life is great.
I was lucky and got pregnant and had my kids easily, and I love them to bits, but I love them most when they are asleep, not when they are waking me up way too early in the morning, or when I have to attempt to improve their behaviour. I just don't go to anything other than a very kid friendly restaurant (ie with a playground) anymore with them. I don't want to torture others as before kids, I pretty much was the death stare woman for other people's kids.
It's school holidays here at the moment, and I'm glad I'm working as I don't want to have to spend all that time with my kids - 8 hours a day is enough for me - 24 is too many.
Bad mother?
Progress indeed. I am so happy for you.
I still think kids are overrated.
Seeker: I know you are right. This will always be with me(you, us).
I am aware of how far I have come. Just right now I am feeling annoyed by a kid in the cafe I am writing in who feels the incessant need to scream at the top of his lungs. I would like to join him.
I LOVE that you too want to fill the children's screaming mouth with food so they will shut up. I love you!!!:-)
Thanks for your encouragement!xo
ENC: Thank you!:-)
Materfamilias: I was stunned, I didn't even cry once. I have come along way with baby.
Thank you so much.And, I will take that hug and send you one right back.
xo.
It is always a big step to realize you are making progress (and it sounds like its a lot of progress).
I am of the mindset that a trip to Ikea on a Saturday will convince anyone not to have children :)
Sez: Thank you! And, I cannot tell you how often I hear it. Makes me coo-koo crazy!!!!
Tessa: I did, because I love you, jump up and read it to He-weasel. I am not going to tell you that I will do that I will do that every time because I want you to keep trying.;-)
He-weasel watches kids cartoons and he eats kiddie snacks--so it sounds like I am not missing out on much.:-)
Deja:Thanks!! I do feel like I have come along way.
And, I only go to Coffee bean becuase it is close and they have free internet. Their Chai Lattes are not bad. For coffee I am a Peet's gal.
Cybil: I wonder if you would be up for a time share. You could have my wild childless life( I would prefer that while you are me you don't take a lot of lovers. I don't think HE-weasel would like it) and I could have your kids. I will try and not do any damage to your kids while I have them. I can make no promises that I won't spoil them and let them do whatever they want.
Honest and truly. Your comment made me feel a lot better. It really made me feel that my life is not soo bad. Many friends and family have tried to tell me that.But you can only hear it when you can hear it and I heard it.
The tango was a lovely surprise. I am, as I type, holding a rose in my teeth just in case you should want to tango again.;-)
Lenore: yes, some are annoying and others are as cute as puppies!!
Sorry, I am slow to respond. I have been without internet. I will be by very soon!
Jaywalker: Lovely to see you as always. Thank you for the hugs and the offer of miraculous beauty products. Oh, last night He-weasel found the last of the lovely cookies you sent me and I think he is ready to move to Antwerp just so he can have constant access to those gingery-buttery biscuits. They are loved by all woozles. Merci!!!
Imogen: Soooo great to see you here. Thank you so much for your lovely comment. First, I must say that I want your hair. Love-love-love!!
Now, onto your comment!:-)It has really been a roller coaster ride and I feel like Ihave been on it for over three years. I am off the IVF and I feel like I am still a bit dizzy, dazed and confused. But every day is a little better except when it isn't!
I know it sounds silly, but one of the things I have longed for is to check on my sleeping children. Also, that lovely feeling of them sleeping in your arms. Le sigh! It is so lovely. But they do wake up and they are not always such quiet angels.
I really appreciate the sensitivity you show to others---many parents think that screaming children are amusing. And, perhaps their children's shrill cry is entertainment( these are the same people who think they can sing on American Idol when they cannot carry a tune in a basket). I just saw a baby at a wine bar the other night and it was a little tiny baby. That kind of thing makes me crazy. I cannot help it, I throw dirty looks when I see parents bringing their toddler into a 10 p.m. R rated movie. I shouldn't judge and yet I cannot stop myself.
You are not a bad mother. You are a mother who knows how much she can give. You are a mother who is modeling to your children the importance of taking care of yourself and creating a fulfilling life for yourself. If I had been lucky enough to be a mother I know that I would have been a better mother if I did work I found fulfilling and I took the time to restore myself so I had something to give and was not mothering out of a deficit.
Thanks so much for your comment!! Please come back again soon.:-)
Psyche: Sooo great to see you!! It feels good to be out of the active grief.
And, I am starting to see what you mean. Kids-shmids!;-)
I just want to say kudos. And hug you. You're finally starting to realize what a strong weasel you are!!!!
Kaili: Thank you! Yes, us weasels are small but mighty. Sometimes I forget about the mighty part.;-)
Big hugs.xo
glad to hear that. and good for you, too. =]
Oh, man. I feel like an ass who takes what she has for granted. I want to just reach across to Cali and give you a big hug.
I'm glad that you're working it out for yourself.
Autumn: Thank you! :-)
Dcup: You are a lucky gal and I will gladly take that hug!
You have come WAYYYY far.
I, on the other hand, am going backwards - reading about all your commenter's ambivalence towards their kids is really putting me off trying for any myself!
So tell me - was Petite Anglaise's book any good? I have been eyeing it off in the bookstore but refraining from buying. Please tell me whether I should go ahead.
Gervy: Thank you for noticing!!! Probably best to avoid the comments when I write about kids--especially on the days you are ovulating. ;-)Perhaps everyone is just trying to make me feel better. It could be?
I, like you, was a bit apprehensive about buying it. It is a fun and very quick read. The ending left me feel strangely sad and yet it was a very French ending (if it is made into an American movie they will have to change the ending.) I recommend. I give it three out of five weasels.
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