Wednesday, December 3, 2008

Cassandra complex

In Greek mythology Cassandra was given the gift of prophecy by Apollo because he had the hots for her. Cassandra was just not that into him and since Apollo was a bit of a hot head when he learned that Cassandra refused to be his Hellenic hometown honey he placed a curse on her so that no one would ever believe her predictions. Cassandra predicted all kinds of horrible things and no one ever believed her---not even her parents and she was rewarded with her gift of precognition with isolation, alienation, despair and was even raped by Ajax.

I have always identified with Cassy not because I ever had any unrequited romances with cursing immortals or even because I am psychic but rather because I saw things in my family and I dared to say what I saw and I was punished for speaking my truth. I had the unenviable roll of the truth teller. It was a lousy role to have as whenever I would speak my truth no one would believe me. I tried other roles, I tried to be the silent and inside screaming to be heard type and I also tried the biting my tongue and rolling my eyes kind of gal----I always returned to my truth telling ways.

Why do I tell you this now? Well, my Cassandra like ways have once again become an inconvenient truth. I am not sure if you recall but the other day in my piece Road trip redux I mentioned that my mother enjoyed her alcohol. I think I told that truth in a matter of fact and not in a terribly harsh way. On Thanksgiving I mentioned my blog to a friend of the family and this nice woman was kind enough to show an interest in my blog. I gave her my blog address and then we all went back to eating turkey.

The next day I heard from my mother that this woman said that I wrote awful things about my mother. I told my mother what I wrote. My mother said that I owed her an apology. But, everything I said was true and so I found that I was outraged, angry and appalled at the notion I owed her an apology. I was back in the midst of the Cassandra complex of my youth.

My mother knows that I think she is an alcoholic. She has known that for a long time. Both she and my father met the diagnostic criteria for alcohol addiction without question. Friends, family and even people in their workplace knew there was a problem but failed to mention it to me until years later. I thought I was the only one to see it and as I had no siblings I never got to test my reality until I went to Al-Anon and therapy.

I went to my first Al-Anon meeting at 14 in a group room in a Methodist church down the street from me. It was in this room that for the first time in my life that I could tell the truth of what I saw and people believed me---adults actually believed me. I should have gone years before that, for example the times my Father drove on the wrong side of the street after a social function or the time my mother threw up on me or the many-many-many nights that they both passed out on the couch would have all been made easier if I didn’t have to bear them alone.

The topper for me was the time my mother was arrested for drunk driving with two of my school friends in the car and then I was blamed by my parents for her arrest because I asked her if she would drive them home. It was the next day I walked to an Al-Anon meeting. Being young and desperate to get them to quit drinking I would pour their booze out or fill the Vodka bottles with water so they wouldn’t drink as much. I would leave brochures I got at Al-Anon around the house so they might see how much their drinking was affecting me and they would instead give the pamphlets to their friends as coasters for their cocktails and then mockingly recount the hilarious story of me going to Al-Anon.

My father died an alcoholic and only quit drinking when the chemo for his lung cancer made him too sick to drink. During my father’s illness my mother drank many tall glasses of “water” that were filled with Vodka. Once I caught my mother downing a glass of Vodka during that time and she said to me, “ I drink because I need too.” It was the closest she ever came to admitting their was a problem. I remember that moment with extraordinary tenderness. In that moment I saw my wounded mother and imagined all the reasons she needed to drink to keep the pain away. I felt real and genuine compassion for her and I was stunned by her honest admission.

I tell you all this not as a way to punish my parents. I tell you this because these things are true and they are what happened to me and when I say these things I am not telling you something bad about my parents. I am telling you my parents were sick and wounded and that they were in pain and that their pain hurt me in both emotional and physical ways.

My father never did and my mother never will apologize for all the pain that their drinking caused me. At this point I am not even sure she even remembers any of it and that is almost more painful than the memories I alone hold. My mother no longer drinks like she did. I often wonder if that is because so much of her pain came from my father or just because she is old. I don’t know why she drinks less, I only know that she does and I am happy about that.

I think of this lovely woman, the friend of the family, who came to my blog on Friday and read my post about my road trip and I am guessing that what she saw here was a horrible daughter who said mean and awful things about her mother----and I am so sorry if that is how she sees me. I see instead a seven year old girl whose mommy passed out and has thrown up on her and who is crying and scared because her mommy won’t wake up. I want an apology for that little girl. I would like that apology. But I will not ever get that apology.

I tell my truth not to hurt anyone. I tell my truth because it is my truth to tell. I will always acknowledge that this is my truth and others may not share my version of the truth and I respect that. But, I will not deny my truth and and I will not apologize for it. Unlike Cassandra, I am not destined to continue to go unheard and unbelieved.

96 comments:

Panda Mime said...

Well done I say for being so honest. It can be hard to express things like that but I'm learning that problems like these are not anything to be ashamed of. My parents were alcoholics too. It eventually killed my father when I was 8 and I have been terribly conscious of drinking too much ever since. I was also very angry for a long time that he had chosen drink over his family. But all we can do is learn from their mistakes I guess.

Imogen Lamport said...

It sounds like your family friend doesn't understand what you went through, or just how much your parents drank, so probably thinks you're exaggerating for the affect of a good story. Or it could be that it's all a bit 'nessy' (as my word verification says today) and should be ignored like poor Cassandra was (by the way, we considered that as a name for my daughter, but couldn't do it due to the my, and instead called her Niamh because it means Bright, anyway, I digress).

You have nothing to apologise for and your mother has much to apologise for - and I hope she reads this. To inflict that kind of pain on your children - even when you are hurting yourself, is not right - she was the adult, you were the child. She could take control of her life, you could not at that age.

I can't imagine what you went through with parents like that - it sure sounds terrible, and not something I'd wish on my worst enemy (or the tax man).

No child should have to deal with that. That is child abuse.

So many hugs and kisses xx

notSupermum said...

What you have done and are doing is much braver than pretending it didn't happen. We can so easily rewrite our own history so as not to cause offence or to make it easier for other people, and ourselves, to digest. You have chosen a braver path. I applaud you for your honesty and courage to speak up.
much love to you xx

Braja said...

Some people say "It's the truth, I have a right to speak it," and stomp all over everyone around them. You have not done that: your post was sensitive and very much about your own personal angle of vision. And why shouldn't you? It *is* your life, it *is* your truth, and you are entitled to share what you feel is yours to share. You played a role in it. And if others don't want to be included in that angle of vision, then they should act more responsibly. They didn't. And so they are a part of that shared truth.

That "friend of the family" should mind her own business. If she thinks what she has done is "better" than what you have done, well...wow...

Randal Graves said...

I cannot say I understand what you went/are going through because I never had to deal with such things, but what I can say is that you don't owe anyone an apology, mon amie. Period.

Nancy (nanflan) said...

Your family friend should have expressed her concerns to you first instead of creating family drama between you and your mom. No one wants to see themselves presented in an unflattering light, so I can understand your mom's discomfort. However, I found that particular post to be sensitively written, not jazzed up for effect. If you're confident that you wrote your truth, then you don't need to apologize for writing it.

Kelly said...

As you know, when I wrote about my feelings and truth as I saw it concerning family members on my old blog, I was taken to task by someone randomly spotting my posts and reporting them to one of the members, who still won't forgive me because although I apologized for the venue in airing my truth, I did not apologize for what I wrote. And nor should you.
My father is an alcoholic too. He is 72, lives alone, and has burned all of his bridges with friends and family, primarily due to his alcoholism and borrowing large sums of money from people and never paying them back. I don't expect an apology from him either this side of heaven. But truth is truth and there's nothing wrong with telling it like it is. I remember going to an Adult Child of Alcoholic meeting once when I was in my 20's with my dad and his girlfriend at the time, and he admitted at the meeting he was an alcoholic. That was the first and only time he ever did.
I pray your family friend will not dramatize your truth to your mother to stir things up, but realize truth and facts.

Anonymous said...

The saddest truth is, your family friend is probably as much aware of the truth, if she is need a close family friend.

Every family with an alcoholic parent deals with an "in family" truth and and "outside family" truth. Often, they're one and the same; no one acknowledges that the alcoholic is an alcoholic. My father is an alcoholic, though dry now. Even with sisters, we all disagree about his drinking and how it affected us. My attempts to tell the truth often ended in punishment and even my sisters accusing me of lying. It wasn't until I too, went to Al Anon, that people believed me, and even nodded when I told my story of my family's denial.

You own no one an apology; your mother owes you a huge one. Unfortunately, my father worked the 12 steps but I guess making amends didn't occur to him. I no longer wait for any apology.

Christine

kaili said...

huzzah for your honesty. And I would just like you to know that my heart goes out to that little girl...she deserved / deserves better than that. on the bright side, I am pleased to hear that your mum has been able to curb her drinking and that you can talk, even though she might not hear you.

Deja Pseu said...

Ah, we have much in common. My mom also is an alcoholic (and at times abusive), and that old adage about "the elephant in the room" that no one is allowed to talk about pretty much describes my childhood. I'm so sorry that you went through this, and don't let anyone bully you into shutting up about it. Going to ACOA (Adult Children of Alcoholics) meetings for about a year when I was in my 20's was the best thing I ever did for my own mental health. It explained SO much.

Comedy Goddess said...

My mother is not an alcoholic, but she is convinced that her version of just about everything is the only correct version of everything. She has way too much pride. Especially about her education, which ended with a Masters. Not exactly a PHD.

One thing is for sure, I don't remember her apologizing for much of anything. How could she, she was always right! I am being ironic here.

We all have biological mothers, and we all have our chosen spiritual mothers. Thank heavens!

Carlene said...

I am so impressed by, among other things, that you went to Al-Anon at 14! I only wish I had done the same (I probably didn't know it existed), and dragged my sisters with me.

sparkleandglitter said...

I agree with the others, what you've posted is not cruel in the slightest, it's a very sensitive, honest post that in my opinion you were brave and courageous to write. xx

Anonymous said...

Stay strong.

Dave said...

I thank you for sharing, and I thank you for your honesty.
We are kindred spirits.

David

Iheartfashion said...

Good for you for finding your own help at 14. It shows a lot of courage and initiative that are still apparent in your writing today, LBR.
I never had to deal with an alcoholic parent, but my heart goes out to you for being put in such a position as a child, and with no siblings to share your pain and truth. Hugs.

Anonymous said...

I hope your mother's friend is still reading.

It's really easy to be judgmental when you're on the outside and know nothing. Just keep telling the truth!

xo --
Marsi

Mardel said...

How sad that your family friend chose to speak to your mother before addressing her concerns directly to you. Your posts are beautifully honest but you seem to be very clear that you are telling your truth, and when you write of your parents there remains that concern. Yes, people use "truth" to attack and hurt, but your posts, and that post in particular are sensitively written.

By going directly to your mom, the family friend seems to be helping to erect and maintain that wall of silence which, in the end, truly hurts everyone. I can understand that your mother might be uncomfortable about your posts, but that she does not see what she owes you, really only confirms the width of the chasm.

Oddly, my mother would probably react the same way if I could write a post even half as honest or beautifully written as yours. But I know my mom reads my blogs, and it is not freeing. My mom was not the alcoholic in my family, that was my dad, but my mom was definitely an enabler and she remains a cold, controlling, distant woman for whom form is everything, and who routinely plays her children off against each other in order to control them and to ensure that she is the center of all family gatherings. I am finally coming to a place in my life where I no longer resent my mother as much as feel terribly sorry for her.

Oddly, my mom took me to alanon as a teen, but I didn't really go, perhaps because my issues with my mom. And the fact that she was playing such a martyr role, and insisting that I go because "her" life was so difficult. The fact that she didn't think my brothers needed to go, and the fact that at least one of the people in that group kept defending my mother to me whenever I would speak pushed me away. I was already being used as the go-between in my family, neither parent would speak directly to each other but would spew forth their venom through me. I think I felt in that group, surrounded by people who seemed to think my mother was a saint, that no one was listening to my voice.

Ah, life in very small towns.

derfina said...

Amen. If anything, I am more diplomatic *gasp* on my blog than I am in reality. If you can't handle MY grasp on MY reality, don't read my blog.

Julianne said...

I will give you an apology, because a parent should never do those things. However, I am sure you are aware that they were probably self medicating for whatever reason. But that doesn't do much for the seven year old now does it?

It's so funny to me as a truth seeker, how people can live in denial and fantasy land. I like it to be real.

It's tough being an only child, having no one to share your confusion with isn't it. Then usually only children are expected to act much more like little adults.

As a mother to a child, I apologize to you.

indigo16 said...

This post is really interesting, In England a mother has just taken her daughter to court because she wrote a very emotive book about her childhood. Her mother was so adamant that the book was a pack of lies she took her to court. Interestingly she lost!
Selective memory is very common amongst mothers, I should know my mothers is a prime example. It is for the reasons you have written about that I have made a conscious decision not to let my family know I write my blog.
You are in a no win situation, but you are braver than I for tackling such an issue and putting it in writing.

indigo16 said...

P.S
The mother lost, not the daughter. The book was very much a true description of a brutal upbringing.

La Belette Rouge said...
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La Belette Rouge said...

When I wrote this piece yesterday I do not think I took a breath the whole time I wrote it( okay, I know that isn't exactly true. But, the breaths were shallow and I took in as little air as possible). There were certain bits that I got to in this post when I was so scared to even write the first word of the sentence and it felt like an emotional marathon to get to the end of the sentence.

When I heard from my mother about my post there was a part of me that wanted to just take down the pieces about my family and then another stronger, louder and more angry part of me said no to that plan. I decided that the best way to respond was to tell the truth and not to hide, contract and to blame myself as I have done in the past.

When I finished writing the post and put it on auto-publish for 4 a.m. I felt terrified. I guess that old Cassandra Complex was really up. I was terrified of what would happen and how you all would react to this piece. Silly, huh?

I have read the 20-something incredible comments over and over and I have not heard once that I was wrong, cruel or, well, wrong. I will respond to all of your posts individually but I just wanted to share with all of you how healing your comments are for me.

I am Cassandra no more thanks to all of you.
xoxo

La Belette Rouge said...

Panda Mime:I am so sorry that you know all too well what I am talking about. I don't go to Al-Anon any more, it is not the primary issue in my life the way it once was, but I do remember that one of their slogans was "You are only as sick as your secrets." There is so much shame in alcoholism and I took a lot of that shame on. I think that by us being honest we are refusing to hold that for them and are freed from the shame.

I am so sorry that alcohol took your father from you when you were so young. Sorry doesn't seem enough to say, but I truly am.

La Belette Rouge said...

Imogen:I do wish I could have talked to this woman and told her about what it was like, if she was interested in knowing. It is strange but I do feel sort of sorry for my mother in this. Not that I wrote the truth but that she got the sense that I was writing horrible things about her. I don't think these are horrible things. These are things that happened. Things I suffered and things she suffered.

I do love the name Cassandra---but I do wish her story had more of a happy ending. That girl really suffered. That said, Greek myths don't usually have happy endings.

My mother won't read this unless this woman decides to share it with her and that would be okay with me too. I didn't say anything untrue and I think that I am rather sympathetic to my mother about the causes of her drinking---but it is not up to me how this woman or my mother decide to react. I know my intention and I feel good about that.

I can tell you that my childhood was not a good one and that almost everyday my weasel reminds me how lucky I am to survived it all and turned out so well. I know he is right.

Thank you, dear Imogen, for your lovely comment of support and all the hugs and kisses.xoxo

La Belette Rouge said...

NSM: I just don't get pretending that it didn't happen. I just physically cannot do it. I wonder if my life would have been easier if I had been able to. No, I don't think it would have.

I think it is more harmful to sugercoat, white wash and deny the truth than it is to admit it. I am always supsicious of people who claim to have only a perfect life and only good things ever happen to them. My B.S. meter goes off.

I thank you so much for your comment and encouragement. It really was scary to write this post. There was a part of me that thought about taking down the Roadtrip Redux. But I love that post and I couldn't delete all those lovely comments. So, I just decided to tell my truth instead of contracting. I am glad I did.
xo

La Belette Rouge said...

Braja: I am not a person who believes much in objective reality. I suppose everything is a fiction of some sort and all truth is highly subjective. The fact that my parents drank a lot, well that is true. Whether they thought was a problem for them or not I will never know. I can tell you it was a big problem for me.

I really appreciate hearing your sense of how I communicated my truth. I really try to focus on my own experience and not get too into blaming.I am so grateful to you for your feedback that I do not seem to be stomping on others with it. I do see my parents both as sick and wounded people who did the best they could and it just simply was not good enough. I feel like my mother admits the truth of it all I will blame her more. The truth is that when she has admitted any of the past it only makes my compassion for her grow.

I imagine that this woman thought she was doing something good. I think she thought she was protecting my mother and I can appreciate that. What I don't appreciate is what seems to me to be the assumption that it wasn't true. Maybe that isn't what she intended but that is what it felt like to me.

Thanks so much, Braja, for your very validating comment.

La Belette Rouge said...

Randal:Thank you. A part of me knows that and another part of me feels like I am in big trouble. I appreciate the reminder that I did nothing wrong.

La Belette Rouge said...

Nancy:I couldn't agree with you more. And, I understand how my mother feels and I really felt sorry for her to have someone say, in essence "your daughter is writing bad stuff about you on the internet for all to see." But, I will not paint a picture of a life that I did not have. I just cannot make my parent's look anyway but who they were/are and I have the same rules for myself.

I read and reread the post and He-weasel had to stop me from documenting all the evidence that each and everything was true. He said over and over, "I know. I have seen the bottles. I know. I have seen it. It is true."

La Belette Rouge said...

Kelly:I thought about what you went through when this happened. It sucks, huh? Like you said,I absolutely will not apologize for what I wrote. I just won't.

It is so interesting that so much of AA is about admitting and making amends and that these things do not come easy for alcoholics to do. I am a big apologizer. Gosh, I bump a wall and I will say I am sorry. As far as admitting, I am a big admitter. I even have a "I was wrong" dance that I do. My mother will NEVER admit she is wrong and her apologies are non-existent.

I am happy that once your father was able to admit it. I found it really helped me the time my mother admitted she needed to drink. That admission was like hearing out loud that I am not crazy. That all of this really happened.

I do wonder if this woman will read this post and/or the comments. I hope that she understands and if she doesn't that is fine too. I just will not deny my truth for her or for anyone else.

l'air du temps said...

La Belette, your truth telling sets us free. when you tell the truth and write about it as you have today, it reminds us of our own truths that we know.

and though there are many who try to talk us out of what we know, we are reminded of your truth and we know that we can believe and trust our own. and from this place we can act, from a place of truth, not delusion. this is a gift that your writing and truth telling has given us. thank you.

and do know that you were a brave and courageous little girl. i hope you know that, and if not, i hope you will.

this courage you still carry with you as a woman. with heart in hand you move through life meaningfully. though it can be painful and difficult, this is a gorgeous gift to give to the world and to yourself. to live a life of meaning.

brava!

...

(as my computer is not working as i hope, i hope this message is not a duplicate. i tried to send a message earlier, but i think it did not work:)



brava!

Jen said...

I'm so sorry for that little girl. She didn't deserve to be put in that position and she didn't deserve to have her truth denied.

My family didn't drink...they were southern baptist...but they left their own wounds that they will not own up to.

I don't know why it is so hard to understand that sometimes all you want is for someone to acknowledge that it happened and it was BAD. You deserve that much!

La Belette Rouge said...

Christine:I am so sorry. But, I am glad that you too found comfort and understanding in Al-anon. It is a great program. I also went to ACOA and that also is great.

I don't think that those in AA would say you can skip the amends part. That is a big part of the process, isn't it?

It really is amazing the number of people just on this blog whose lives have been impacted by addiction and yet the stigma and shame remain.

Anonymous said...

No, none of it is your fault. I hate how addicts con their family members into thinking it is. It's hard to break away, but it must be done. It's sort of like shooting a cougar in mid-air: you can't believe it once you've done it and have to pretend to be sorry that you killed the "poor cougar," but really, you're not only not sorry that you did it but are secretly proud that you pulled it off and survived.

Hang in there. No doubt there's more Mama Drama to come. It's easier to bear it when you know you're on the right track.

xo --
Marsi

Anonymous said...

I have just discovered your blog, but I believe I came upon it to send you some encouragement. As I read your post today I saw alot of myself in you and when you talk about your experiences. I too remember a car experience (my mother fails to remember at all) I was sixteen (no license yet) and they showed up to a movie theatre to pick me up and she and my step-father were both drunk, so I told them I would not ride with them. So they told me to drive. All they way home, my mother was grabbing the seat behind me, yelling at me and shaking it, acting completely crazy and making it impossible for me to drive correctly, all the while I was afraid I would get pulled over, arrested for no license and my parents would be hauled off to jail. Instead, we arrived home safely but my mom continued to yell at me and as we got in the house, I just exploded and told her to stop acting like such a "bitch" ,well not only did I shock myself by saying that but then my step-dad went to hit me and then I let out what I had been holding in, he had sexually abused me and I had never told my mom. She then proceeded to call me a liar and all hell broke loose. Fast forward to a couple of years, my step-dad finally got into rehab and I was the first to confront him and forgive him. My mom and I eventually repaired our relation-ship because I was the only one to stick by her when everything came out, but with all this said, you have to speak your truth or it will eat a big hole in your heart. There are a lot of details I am leaving out but ultimately my step-dad has been sober for 15 years and my mom still drinks (not as much) but my 12-yr old daughter and my 9 yr-old niece are so turned off by alcohol they probably will never touch it. So, wow I didn't expect to leave such a long post but as you can see you are not alone in your struggle. I could probably write a whole book about so many sad things that have happened in my life due to alcohol (luckily I don't really drink) My older sister alone is a movie of the week in the making. Above all, you need to be true to your self and your truth, I know this and my mom and I have gone months before without speaking to each other because I refused to put up with her druken behavior especially around my daughter. Today, my mom and I have an extremely honest relationship, its not easy but there is peace and freedom in the truth and I wish you the same. Sorry this is so long! If you need encouragement or just want to vent here is my e-mail,
paris1971@live.com ,if I don't hear from you good luck and I applaude you!

La Belette Rouge said...

Kaili:Thank you so much. It really is a bit disorienting to get so many positive comments about this. In one corner of my life I hear that I should say nothing and that it is wrong to say anything and nothing happened.

The memories of the times I thought they/we would die because of alcohol are many and my heart aches for the mini-me that had to endure it all.

It has been nice that she no longer drinks like she did. But, my truth will never find a home with my mother and that is a suffering that many people know. That said, it is still sad.

Kristen said...

You are the bravest person I know. Honest, beautiful, gifted. My heart aches for your 7 year old self and it aches for you now. I am so proud of you for speaking your truth.

I think you know far more about taking leaps of faith than I do. God bless you.

Paula said...

An honest and wonderful post. It takes a lot of guts to tell the truth :) Bravo! You really do deserve a standing ovation.

Miss Janey said...

Dealing with the truth is nearly impossible for alcoholics, Miss La BR, as you well know. You owe NO ONE an apology for writing the truth. The truth will set you free. What it does for others, cannot be your concern.

La Belette Rouge said...

Deja: It is astonishing to me how we are all living these separate lives and how we imagine we are the only ones going through something and yet we weren't. I think it really helps to know that.

There are long term consequences of living with that elephant that no one talks about and for me one of those was never really trusting my perceptions. Even this week I started doubting my experience and maybe my parent's weren't alcoholics(that will tell you how distorted perceptions get when living with an elephant). Anyways, I am sorry you had an elephant at your house and I sincerely thank you for your encouragement. I will not shut up. Big hugs.

La Belette Rouge said...

Comedy Goddess: Lovely to meet you. I love your name!!

Ugh! Yes, I know about mother's with pride, inflation, hubris and the ability to grossly exagerate the truth. I really feel for you.
My mother will NEVER admit she is wrong. Really, I don't think if the Spanish inquisition guys put her on a rack she could do it. Drives me cookaloo crazy!!!

I thank you for your comment and for visiting. I hope you come back. I do funny too, not just sad and sniffley. I look forward to visiting your blog!:-)

Savvy Mode SG said...

oh i am sorry to hear about this LBR. I am thinking your family friend knows the truth, but it's the case of "don't air your dirty laundry".... truth hurts esp. if one is in denial. you have your own life now, even if you can't change the past, you can live a better future.

La Belette Rouge said...

Carlene: I was in therapy by 10 and so I was already pretty psychologically minded. I do think that learning that there were others helped. It also helped to develop an Eating Disorder so I could obsess about myself and ignore them( I am only partly kidding. I do think that having an ED distracted me and helped me survive. Happily that too is long behind me).

I am so sorry you and your sister had a home that would have made Al-Anon necessary. I really am.
xo

Sparkleandglitter:I am having to do a lot of breathing to take all this kindness, support and honest feedback in. My Cassandra complex seems to be taking a real hit today and that is a great thing. Thank you S&G! xx

Anonymous: Thank you.:-)

Dave:I say the same thing back to you. I am deeply touched by your honesty and openness that you bring to your blog. I am so glad you found my little blog. Hugs to you.

Iheartfashion: Thank you so much for your comment, it means a lot to me.

I am very grateful that I saw there was something wrong and I had the ability to get help for myself. I really am.
xo

Marsi:I do too and I hope she understands. But, if she doesn't I am really sorry about that.

I will keep telling the truth and it feels scary and good to do so. I do notice I am feeling a bit in shock with all these lovely comments.
xo

Kirie said...

Belle, I read your post hours ago, and though I wanted to comment right away, I felt I needed to twist it around in my mind before I wrote.

I continue to be so very amazed by your candor and your bravery. The fact that you feel that wounded seven-year old in you so viscerally seems to me evidence that you need to speak your truth. It's a gift to yourself that you breathed and pushed through writing this post and hit the publish button. Based on your reactions to the comments, it seems you are accepting your gift, and I'm glad for it.

I have some experience with various "realities" constructed by family and family friends. I've found that questioning those constructions can bring out the worst in people, even people who may be lovely in lots of other ways. In my case, some family members have constructed walls and moats even to keep away the barbaric, Cassandra-like me when I want to speak the truth. The truth is this: you were wounded as a child, and have the right to speak about it.

For what it's worth, I agree with all your other posting friends who have pointed out how very sensitive you have been about this issue, and how kind and forgiving you have been. It's a credit to you to be forgiving, and I am amazed by your gentle hand. It's also your right to speak of it the way you wish until you feel some solace.

Last thing: I love your final paragraph in this piece. Not to belabor the foot thing, but you have drawn a neat but clear line in the sand here...and you are standing your ground. Again, you're brave and amazing...
xo,K.

Sal said...

You are strong and good.

WendyB said...

Well said. You always tell your truth with great sensitivity. As another commenter pointed out, you're NOT one of those people who goes around brutalizing others and saying, "I'm just being honest" (like someone in my family!).

La Belette Rouge said...

Mardel:I so sincerely appreciate your honest, kind and very thoughtful feedback.

As all I write is memoir/personal essay I have long wished that when I publish a book that the publisher would allow me to put a disclaimer in that says "This is my truth and truth is subjective. I know that this is not the only version of the truth and I in no way claim to be writing truth with a capital "T" but rather the truth that is in me." I am very pleased that it appears to you that I do not use my "truth" to attack or hurt because I certainly do not intend to do either of those. As all I write is non-fiction all I have for my material is the truth.

It might be easier for me/others if I wrote the truth as fiction. Actually, the first short story I published was about me and my parents and there were exact scenarios and verbatim conversations in it that we had. But, as I changed the names and locations in the story no one was upset and my mother has it framed and hanging on her den wall.

I feel a need to write non-fiction and I think that may be an attempt to get my truth acknowledged. Writing fiction would be to again deny the veracity of my experience. Does that make any sense?

I do know that because my blog is anonymous it has given me greater courage to write what I might not otherwise dare.

As you describe, even when both parents are not alcoholics there is usually a sick system. I am so sorry that your relationship with your mother was so difficult. I am happy for you that you have gotten to a place where you have greater peace and understanding. You must have done a lot of work to get there.

Your experience in Al-anon sounds like it was not at all supportive of you. Too bad you couldn't go to Al-ateen or a support group for daughter's of saints.;-)

Thanks again, Mardel. I am deeply touched by your comment, honesty and your support.
xo

DCup said...

There's that old saying about the truth and how it will set you free. Maybe writing is the way you find your way out of the pain.

La Belette Rouge said...

Derfina: "If you can't handle MY grasp on MY reality, don't read my blog." Really well said! I think I might quote you on my "about me" page.;-) Thank you!!!

Hammie said...

Hi Bellette, I hear you and I see you as that little girl.
I was lucky enough to have only one drunken father, but one passive aggressive mother who punished us because she had no power over my dad. (who was aggressive aggressive)

You are not responsible for your parents, they are responsible for you.
If they have fucked up then that is their loss.

I live in dread of my family reading my blog too avidly, and then I write something about what a hideous christmas we had last year (because of the In-laws) and hit PUBLISH without a care.

As a great philosopher* once said "FECK EM"

(*my husband)

xx

La Belette Rouge said...

Indigo:Really interesting. Do you know the name of the book? I bet if I did some Googling I could find it.

LOL! Yes, my mother too has selective memory, selective hearing and selective depression( she is only depressed if I call her otherwise she is cheery and upbeat).

My mother can't use her computer so I never worry about her reading it and actually she asks for me to print posts and give them to her. I leave out ones I am sure she won't like. In the 14 months I have been blogging this month is the first time I have gotten any flack. If she could and did use a computer I would have done what you did and never mentioned it.

Seriously, Indigo, I don't think I am at all brave or courageous. I think I may be stupid. Really. I may one day regret this.

La Belette Rouge said...

L'air du temps:I am really and truly pleased if this helps someone else and that it doesn't read as endlessly narcissistic and self-indulgent.

I was honestly scared to publish this and I was afraid of how it might sound to all of you lovely readers. It is astonishing how worried I was. I was expecting that old familiar backlash.

I am amazed all that I endured and that I made it this far--and I think your for reflecting your sense of me as a person of courage. I really don't see that in myself. But, I will try to take it in.:-)

Thank you so much, dear and sweet L'Air!:-)
xo

La Belette Rouge said...

Jen:She was lovely. I am a bit of a wreck. But she was sweet. I wish, like Holden, I could go back and time and take her from that environment and bring her home with me and take care of her and protect her from going over the cliff. Silly. huh?

I guess if our parents admitted to us that they did wrong then they would have to admit it to themselves. That might be the hardest part. They would have to live with it then. I don't know. I am just guessing. I hope some day that you get your apology.
Hugs to you.xo

...love Maegan said...

First of all, fantastic story. I too am a truth teller. People believed me but I was labeled as a tattle tale when really I was just trying to protect those I loved ...mostly my younger brother. I too grew up with an alcoholic father but my mother was just in denial of it all until she finally divorced him. I understand this story so well and what's funny is just yesterday my husband was upset that I told the blog world that he and I got into a fight. I told him that all couples fight but he said it shone a bad light on him somehow {which I thought was selfish} ...I offered to remove the post {but secretly I did not want to} ...and luckily he said no. I'm glad you told this story even though your family may be reading it. It's your life story, not theirs.

La Belette Rouge said...

Marsi: It is quite a mind-fuck that the addict does. "No, there is nothing wrong with me. There is something wrong with you. You are the problem. I am fine and you are wrong." Huh??? Crazy making.

I am literally waiting for the phone to ring as I sit here responding to these lovely comments. Even now, I am imagining that calls have been made and team Cassandra is about to deliver me to Athena's temple.

I love your shooting the cougar metaphor. It is scary to shoot it and the cougar is big and it feels like it could kill you and then there is the mix of guilt, fear, relief and pride. Strange and powerful combination of feelings.
xoxo

Couture Carrie said...

Arg, I totally understand your frustration, LBR! I am always wary of putting personal stuff on CC because it can be misconstrued . . . it is hard to be private when we are all over the "interwebs"! You are a lovely blogger; keep up the amazing work!

xoxox,
CC

SassyTwoSocks said...

Thank you for sharing this. While it's hard to have to deal with your mother being upset at you for posting about her, if it's the truth (and it clearly is) then she's probably upset at having to see herself how she really is. Hopefully this blog is a good outlet for you to get this stuff out, as I'm sure there is some comfort in being able to do so.

La Belette Rouge said...

Paris1971: I am so glad you found my blog and that I didn't scare you away with this post. I cannot thank you enough for sharing your story, offering your support and your gift of encouragement.

Oh, sweet you, what a horrible experience. So scary to have your adults make no sense and to be totally out of control. I am just in awe of your impulse to protect yourself: not driving with them, calling your mom a bitch and confronting your step father for his abuse and then to ultimately forgive him. Dear, Paris, you are a powerhouse!!

Like you, I think if the truth is not spoken it eats at you like a cancer. And, I do wonder if there were things my parents couldn't stand to speak and hence their deep thirst for Vodka.

I am so happy that so much has changed and that your stepfather got into recovery and that you and your mother can no be honest with each other. I am sad to say that will never happen with my mother and me. She is in her early 80's and for many reasons I think our chance at that is behind us and that is really sad.

Again, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. I do hope you come back again soon. It is very lovely to meet you and to hear your story.
Big hugs to you.xoxo

La Belette Rouge said...

Kristen:I just wrote something in which I was making fun of myself and then I realized that by doing that I was not taking in your incredible and kind comment. Thank you, Kristen.

I am so deeply touched by what you say about leaps of faith. I cannot even put into words why that is so---but please know that it is.xoxo

Paula: I think I am getting a bit disoriented by the kindness and encouragement in these comments. Must keep breathing. Thank you, Paula. xoxo

Miss Janey:I know that about in alcoholics in my head. There is a whole other kind of knowing that is a work in progress.

I thank you so much for emphasizing that I owe no one on apology for my truth. Thank you. I got a distinction in there that I think I was missing. Hugs to you, lovely and wonderful Miss Janey.xoxo

La Belette Rouge said...

Savvy: I had two choices: 1) contract and delete the post or 2)tell the truth and move forward. It seemed like #2 was the only choice. I am so glad I made it.

K.Line said...

I am continually in awe of your ability to honestly document your emotions and experiences. It is a tremendous gift.

And, as the (not alcoholic) parent of a female only child, I see first hand how isolated little girl's can be from broader outside perspectives (kid perspectives, extended family perspectives). Parents of only children wield such power. My daughter is growing up with a fairly narrow field of exposure and I feel the weight of ensuring that I/my husband don't ruin her with our unfiltered "eccentricities".

Clearly it's unconscionable that your parents introduced you to such fundamental insecurity - abuse, even. Though I can understand how substance abuse, to mute pain, arises. What I find so hard to understand is how your mother cannot remove those blinkers, even now. As the catalyst for healing, I feel she really has no choice. She owes you that. Not that she would agree with me...

The Seeker said...

Ma belle, I'm feeling so touched with all your writing.
I acctualy admire you my dear for what you have been trough and stayed the wonderful and honest person you are.
This post is from someone very brave!!!!
Fortunatly I had no such experiences, but I say you don't have to apologize, you as the seven year old should receive an apology.

As for the "lovely lady".... with those friends who needs enemies???

Stay strong ma belle, don't let this let you down, I'm sending you good vibrations and all my love.
Big hug
xoxo

corine @ hidden in france said...

Oh yeah, they sure prefer their version.

LENORENEVERMORE said...

Forgive me La Belette, for using the term- 'generational curse'...it's almost like a cycle from generations before your mom could have gone through the same perhaps... All I know is that you might have broken that curse/destructive cycle & now focusing on healing & forgiveness... My Grandfather was an alcoholic... before he was 'born-again' & found Jesus Christ... He found miracle really...& broke the 'curse', now my mom has to mend the damage done from her childhood trauma...& now my turn to do the damage control too.... It's a big cycle...in one form or another I guess??? Thanks for your brutal honesty my dear!
My fav 'F' word...forgiveness & healing will come ;)

~Peace & continue to 'heal'

La Belette Rouge said...

Kirie: I truly feel like I am the cowardly Lion and I have you all fooled because I have a lion coat on. Truly, I thought about taking the blog down because of all of this. As I am now really working on the book proposal and as this has happened I am starting to realize that not everybody is going to like what I have to say and I am afraid of being attacked.

There is the compulsion in me to tell the truth and say it like it is warts and all and I am not sure it is always for the best. So when I say I don't feel brave I guess I mean that brave would feel like there was a choice.It feels like an autonmomic reflex that I have little control over.

I will admit that when I connected to that wounded seven-year old girl I did feel a little I will kick the ass of anyone who tells her she is wrong and that she is bad for saying what happened. Maybe that is what you all see.

The process of writing this post was like none other. I literally sat on the edge of my seat and held my breath until I got it done. I called He=weasel to read it to him and he was in meetings. I needed it to be heard. I didn't trust myself that it was okay.Once he read it and said it was okay I then hit publish and waited for the fall out to happen.

It really is amazing what machinations people will go through to hold onto their construction. I am endlessly amazed by it.

That sentence you wrote:" The truth is this: you were wounded as a child, and have the right to speak about it." I read that over five times and with each reading my breathing and body relaxed as if you were telling a bed time story. Thank you for that.

I can tell you that if I had my computer on Saturday this post would have been very different. I was MAD!! I was in a rage. He-weasel joined me in it and we were spitting rocks, thunderbolts and outrage. I think it was good that I had a few days to process it before I wrote this.

Kirie, don't tell anyone, but I love that final paragraph too. It feels like a declaration and a personal motto. I feel strong and sure and grounded when I read it.

Thank you so much, Kirie. I deeply appreciate your very thoughtftul comment. I am really loving the feet, grounding,and footing that you have made me aware of. I wish I had a better word than thank you. It just doesn't seem enough.xxooxo

La Belette Rouge said...

Julianne:You are so very dear.:-) I wonder what it would be like to have a mother who could say that to me. I just cannot even imagine. I do know that they both drank to deal with pains, traumas and complexes that they did not have the strength to face.

I am with you. I want real. I want authentic. I want to know what people are really feeling. "I'm fine" can grate on my ears when I know that subtext is going unsaid.

I definitely had the role of the parentified child and there was no room for me to be a kid. That is one of the lovely thing about my weasel, he brings out the kid in me.

That last sentence in your comment brought me to tears. Hugs to you.xoxo

La Belette Rouge said...

Sal: Thank you.:-)xo

Wendy: I really try not to bash and trash with my truth. That does no one any good. I am so sorry you have someone like that in your family. Thanks, Wendy, I am so happy to hear you don't think I do that.xo

Michelle said...

I've just read through some of your responses to comments and I found it interesting that you say you feel more free to write the truth with anonymity. I wish that worked for me. I tried that approach for years because I felt the need to protect others, but I actually felt more constrained and guilty about my early life (unfounded guilt, but that was the whole issue). I've reached a point in my life where I want to say 'F-you, this is how it is, this is my truth and this is who I am.' That said, at this point I am not blogging about those memories, more because I am incorporating a lot of it into a research project that I have a scholarship to complete, and I am a bit wary about revealing anything too much before I submit.

Once it is done I am happy for my truth to be out there. A lot was taken from me, including the chance to have a normal childhood. That is a part of my story/my truth, and it took me many years to accept that was not my fault, that I deserved better, that I was just a little girl.

~alison said...

OMG!!!! HELL YES! Seriously, this EXACT thing happened to me! I wrote {just factual info} about my mother mentioning she had an affair with my stepfather and she came from a poor family - those things were NOT in the same post...but she LOST it! I kept telling her this was MY story and affected me. We are still fighting about the anger I feel toward her for not providing me with a safe home...my stepfather was her TOP PRIORTY and it was Ok for her daughter to sit around and watch her mother be beaten. I can't believe the same thing happened to you. People need to get a freakin' life and stop trying to screw other's lives up. THANK YOU FOR THIS POST! I, unlike, you deleted all the posts about my mom because she made me feel horrible. At the time, I was unable to stay firm on my side.

enc said...

You don't owe anyone an apology.

La Belette Rouge said...

Dcup: I really thought that all of this was a non-issue at this point. I was just reporting a fact in the Roadtrip redux, yeah so my mom liked to drink. Big deal. But then all this other stuff got ripped open when I was told I had to apologize. So, I think it was ultimately a good think and I almost feel like I could sincerely thank the woman who opened the can of worms. Amazing!

La Belette Rouge said...

Hammie: One drunken father and one passive aggressive mother does not sound lucky in my book. But, you are better able to see the bright side than I am.;-)

Did you see that film, "Defending Your life"? I wish I had film clips to prove to my mother all that happened. The things she doesn't remember is a bit hard to believe and yet I really believe she doesn't. How is that for a paradox?

Hammie, I just LOVE your spirit and your tell it like it is honesty. According to my shrink it seems that I have been entirely responsible for someone elses happiness and my own is usually taken by someone else. But now that I see that is what happens I am not buying into it.

I don't fear family will read my blog(obviously naive of me) but I always hit publish with total dread and anxiety---unless it is about something like shoes or something totally safe.

I love your husband too. "Feck em"!! I am adding that to the weasel lexicon. Brilliant!!!
xoxo

La Belette Rouge said...

Maegan: Thank you. And, it is nice to meet another truth teller. I wonder if your having a sibling had anything to do with you being believed. Do you think? I had no one to bounce my truth off and hence never had it validated.

I cannot tell you how much I appreciate you sharing the story about your husband. I think it is our imperfections, struggles and all the other shit about life that makes us real. And, I loved your post about the sake and the tree. I thought he did not at all come off bad. He came off as human. I really gotten a lot out of your posts about your father, the baby sadness, etc. as I feel like you are a real person with real issues and that only makes me care about you more---and I have really related to a lot of it.

Thank you so much. I am glad I wrote both posts. I am really starting to feel grateful that this friend stirred the pot and brought this all up to the surface.
Huge hugs to you.xoxo

La Belette Rouge said...

Couture Carrie:You are very, very kind. I know that someday this will not be an anonymous blog and that is going to be scary. Maybe by that point I will have resolved all of this and it won't be as hard as I imagine it to be.
xoxo

SassyTwoSocks:I do wonder if she has moved out of denial into total amnesia about it all.

It is good to get it out. But, I don't want to use the blog as personal therapy, that is unless I can make therapy funny and entertaining.;-)

La Belette Rouge said...

K.Line:Thank you so much. I am a bit fuzzy with shock from the reaction I have received from this post. Really, I am stunned.

Now to your daughter. She is a very lucky girl. How lovely to have the focused of attention of parents who love you and are there for you and who are highly intelligent, emotionally healthy and who are self accepting. I remember you saying that you create dinner rituals with friends to expand your daughters social network. You are giving her nothing less than resilience by giving her more people who she knows cares about her.

At this point in my mother's life she is least likely to admit anything. It is a shame. There will never be a resolution between us and she will never admit that she did anything wrong. Not ever. So sad. Actually it seems sadder for her than it does for me.
xoxo

La Belette Rouge said...

Seeker: It is such a strange thing that the very thing I am labeled bad and wrong for doing by my family I am seen as brave and strong by friends. It is so very strange. Isn't it?

The lady seemed very nice. I really liked her. And, I do feel like her impulse was to protect my mother who is old and to many would not seem like the woman I describe here today.
Thank you! I will take all the hugs, love and good vibrations you've got.xoxoxo

Corine: But, there version is devoid of truth. I guess that works for them;-).

LENORENEVERMORE: I am so happy your Grandfather recovered and that your Mother was able to do the work to heal her childhood trauma and that you are breaking the patterns. Not doing the work and staying stuck only looks easier. The hard work of consciousness is absolutely worth it.

Thanks so much for sharing some of your story and for your good thoughts and encouragement.xoxoxo

La Belette Rouge said...

Michelle:You are brave and courageous. I so want to get to where you are with anonymity not being necessary to tell the truth. I think that is amazing. I don't feel the need to protect others. I feel the need to protect myself. I am getting much-much closer to 'F-you, this is how it is, this is my truth and this is who I am.' I think just in writing this post I have come along way in this and that feels good.

I really look forward to reading more of your story and celebrating your willingness to be so honest. It is an inspiration. I thank you so much, Michelle.
xo

La Belette Rouge said...

Alison:I am so sorry!!! Is it awful of me to wish that you had copies of those posts and you could repost them. They are your stories and if you need to tell them you need to tell them.

It is interesting to me that my mother wanted two things: 1) to read the post and 2) an apology. She never asked me to take the post down. That is something. I don't think I will let her read it. What good could come from it. And, she will not be getting that apology.

I am so sorry that your mom can't handle your truth either. I guess if they can't they shouldn't be reading our blogs.

I am so glad you came by today and I am delighted to discover your blog. Hugs to you.xoxoxo

Enc: I don't and I know it. I do wish my mother knew it. I also would like it if the lady who told my mother about my blog knew it to. But, that is all out of my control.

Anonymous said...

Water down the truth? NO!!! Not just no, but HELL NO! I can't tell you how much I abhor denial. Sometimes the truth hurts, but after the initial sting--it has such magnificent power.

There are two things that I value more than anything else in the world--Truth and Loyalty.

I am sorry if your mother and your mother's friend were hurt by your truth, but your emotional health depends upon your speaking the truth. To apologize for it or to water it down/cover it up is not acceptable. That 7 year-old girl needs that truth to be told. The 14 year-old that walked into Al-Anon needs that truth to be told. In fact every child who has ever had alcoholic relatives needs the truth to be told---and to know that it was NEVER the child's fault that it happened.

I'm all fired up now--can you tell? I think it's time for me to browse Zappos.com for awhile to cool down!

~Just Ducky

La Belette Rouge said...

Just Ducky: Your beautiful, touching and profound comment is the kind of comment I will return to often. Really, I am serious. When I am tempted to add water I will read your words.

The two values you prize are in my top three. Security is my #1 and I think that is why I sometimes have sacrificed my truth for the sake of security. Not wise.

The 7, 14, and 41 year old me are all determined not to apologize.
I wish I could forward your comment to my mother. But, she probably wouldn't even read it and if she did she wouldn't understand it and that is a shame.

When I went to bed last night I was sure that today there would be horrible ramifications for this post and yet so far so good.Ducky your comment is the last thing I will read tonight, I am off to bed filled with the strength, fire and genuineness of this comment. Thank you so much. I am deeply touched.

Hope you found some lovely shoes!:-)
xoxo

Le laquet said...

Denial - horrible word! And they can't start healing until they stop denying. But LBR, even if your mother won't say sorry I will. I'm sorry, for all you endured, the neglect and emotional abuse (because that's what it was), children shouldn't have to deal with that they should be protected, cherished, valued and believed-in by everyone around them. I am so fortunate that in all the years of drinking my father did before he went to AA and sobered up and became an amazing man I too had Al-Anon and a mother who protected me and stood by me.
I still hurt over his drinking - especially when idiots can't see that alcoholism is an illness not just a character defect and that AA helps and doesn't hinder. I don't think we ever forget our need for the helps and fellowship in Al-Anon ... and we never have to stop going/needing it either. Does that make sense? I'm sure it's a bit garbled - emotive subject for me.

pretty face said...

One of the most important values to me is honesty, and of course I believe every single word of what you've written.

It's so sad to see how much you've gone through in life - you don't deserve it. xxxxxx

The Duchess said...

It's your pain that should be of concern to your family friend, not how the post makes your mother 'look'.
It's obviously not a surprise revelation for anybody who knows your mom. (I'm still in awe of you going to Al anon at 14!) You've been carrying around alot of pain for years, and good for you for being able to get it out in the open. I really believe that's so much healthier than bottling it all up!

Songy said...

I'm sorry but I'm outraged. That woman is so f(*&& stupid and ill mannered. I (most times) have no patience for stupidity like that.

La Belette Rouge said...

Le Laquet:I just don't understand the complexeties of the mind of someone who can deny the bulk of their life. I am a person who is constantly reflecting on my thoughts, motivations and actions. I crave consciousness and this has
always been a bone of contention between my mother and me. I have heard the criticism all my life, "You think too much" and "you are too analytical." Huh? How is that possible? Well, I guess it is. But, I think maybe I am so into self-awareness because I lived with people who were not at all self-aware.

Never in my life, not even at Al-Anon did I receive the kind of feedback that my reality was real and that it was wrong ad I have in response to this post. I am a bit overwhelmed. It is so different than what I am used to. The comments that have come from the post makes what happened with this friend of my mother all worth it. I am printing all of these comments and putting it in my "important thing"file. I am so deeply touched by the depth, the sincerity and the validation I feel in each and every comment. My heart is full.

I am so happy you had a mother who protected you and that you too had Al-anon. I am so pleased that your Father got into AA and that he is no longer drinking. I know you know how lucky you are that he did. I am happy for your entire family.

I think that my mother and maybe her friend( I don't know her well enough to say) think that alcoholism is a character defect and not an illness. I mean, if I said my mother had diabetes or high blood pressure would this lady called my mother to say that I had said terrible things about her?

I really hear what you are saying about Al-Anon. And you know what, I might find a meeting. It might be good for me to go since all of this is up for me right now. Thank you, Le Laquet.

I want to thank you again for your very generous, honest and extremely supportive comment. Huge hugs to you.xoxo

La Belette Rouge said...

Pretty Face: It is so nice to have my truth witnessed and believed.
You are very dear, thank you. No, I didn't deserve it and no one does. There are times when it all feels too much and there are other times it feels like maybe I am making a mountain out of a mole hill( I think that is me being a little bit in denial).
xoxo

La Belette Rouge said...

Duchess:Thank you!You succinctly described my outrage. I was so angry when I heard about this. I felt that what was being protected was how my mother looks and the reality of what it was like to have parents who drank a lot was totally ignored. I am still processing my feelings about being made the bad guy for telling the truth. I am still angry and it seems absurd that me telling the truth is a bigger issue than the real issue at hand.

This woman is more of an acquaintance than a friend. I don't think she knew or knows that my mother/father are alcoholics and that is fine. But to assume that I was saying something wrong or false that does make me upset, angry, hurt, etc.

I think my mother/father bottled their feelings( in both sense of the word) and I am just not able to do it. I do hope that this woman who told my mother what I wrote, I do hope she read my post and I do hope that she read all these comments and I hope she understands why I wrote what I wrote and that I do love my parents and that I was not attacking my mother by saying the truth.

La Belette Rouge said...

Songy: I can tell you that when I first heard about it I was not at all happy. I was pissed. He-weasel was furious. How dare she? Was a phrase I heard/said a lot.

Cassoulet Cafe said...

Dear Samos Sis,
I am sitting in a crappy town in Arizona, and this is the post I chose to read.
I have always been honest with you. I will be again. You didn't say ANYTHING hateful, mean, or untrue.
Coming from a family with many alcoholics, most of whom completely are in denial...let's see, only ONE of them has ever admitted it and is actively against himself ever drinking again and HE'S the one who is in prison BECAUSE of his alcoholism.
The rest of them have a serious case of denial, and I refuse to ever let any of them have care of my children. (One of them last year grabbed the baby and was walking around our bon fire with her!!! I went nuts and of course, in her eyes, I was the bad guy. However, she couldn't even make a complete sentence or even keep her own head up).
Also, my BFF's dad was killed by a drunk driver when she was 14.

I cannot imagine having parents who are alcoholics, and I am SO SORRY that you had to deal with that. But, you were right in being honest. This is YOUR blog, YOUR truth. YOUR THERAPY. YOUR SUPPORT.

Big hugs,
CC

My WV is DIALLYG. This is a dialogue from an inebriated person. :) dia-lig

Le laquet said...

You're more than welcome - hugs right back at you ;o)

katyboo1 said...

late to the party!

I married an alcoholic once. It was funny (peculiar, not ha ha). It never figured in my life at all until I met him. We weren't a drinking kind of family.

I remember him saying to me; 'I'm an alcoholic. I like to drink. That's who I am. Take it or leave it.' I hadn't got a bloody clue what he was talking about. He had a regular job etc, etc. Surely not?

It was a tough gig even though he got dry a week after we were married and started in AA four months later when he realised he was going more mental dry than drunk.

We were together a long time and it was very, very hard. Al Anon was an absolute life saver for me in so many ways. Sobriety can be really brutal for a very, very long time. It was harsh. When you're surrounded by harshness it's overwhelming to meet such kind people. It begins to thaw you out. You learn to start trusting again.

He's a good man, but a mess in many ways. His father drank himself to death, and his father before him. His home life was a mess and he brought all that to the party. He's working his programme and I am incredibly proud of him (he's been sober for 14 years now), but I am glad that we are apart.

I only experienced alcoholism lite and some of it was hideous. And I chose it. I could have walked away at any time. You didn't have those choices or that freedom and my heart aches for the child you were.

I can only begin to imagine what you went through, and still deal with.
I've read every comment. You've touched so many people. I hope you're proud. You should be.

La Belette Rouge said...

Dear Corfu Cuz: Thank you. I am still a bit stunned that I didn't get any flack over this post. All of this support, encouragement, and assurance that I did nothing wrong and that I have nothing to apologize for means so very much to me.

You know, when I was in my eating disorder I knew I had one. I was never in denial about that. I did deny that it was harmful. But, I never denied I had it. Alcoholics and denial seem to be inextricably linked.

I so appreciate you sharing your experiences and challenges with alcoholism in your family.

And, I thank you again for your assurances that I did nothing wrong and that I have nothing to apologize for.

Hey, and crummy town? You aren't enjoying Arizona?
Much love,
Samos Sis
xoxo

La Belette Rouge said...

Katyboo1: Not late, fashionably late!;-)

I cannot thank you enough for coming by and sharing your story.
I am so amazed that your ex knew and admitted he was an alcoholic.

You make a really good point about how being addiction affects ones ability to trust. I so relate to that.

And, I am so happy to hear that your ex was able to find a real recovery. That is fantastic. I cannot imagine what it is like to be an alcoholic. I just don't get it. But, I do get that it must be very hard to recover and give it up as so many people are not able to do it.

Growing up with alcoholic parents is so very difficult and I would never wish it on anyone. I was in a state of constant anxiety, uncertainty and felt like things might explode at any moment. Not good. When I was 18 I ran away and what I wanted to get away from was that kind of life and I am so grateful that I did not recreate it for myself in my adult life( a lot of people do).

I am a big stunned and very touched by the depth, honesty and heart felt encouragement of your comment. Thank you.

I am proud that I dared to tell the truth and that I did not fall for the B.S. that I did anything wrong. I am so touched by the outpouring of encouragement and support that I received. I have pages of comments that say the words that I always longed to hear. That is a real gift. I am very, very, very grateful. :-)

Anonymous said...

God, I love you. That was my childhood too, only the grandfather who dominated the family (and who Mom worshipped a la "Daddy is just like Jesus, so persecuted and he's the most brilliant man in the world") was the alkie. Mom is 70 and STILL can't acknowledge that his behavior (the drunk driving arrests, the drinking and ridiculing at holidays etc.) was alcoholism. She can't even acknowledge that it was wrong because Daddy could never be wrong.

I believe that telling your child that she (I'm an only too) is crazy and wrong because she sees and says the truth, as you hide your sickness, is child abuse. It doesn't even have to rise to the level of the screaming face smack (followed by sobbing "Daddy isn't an alcoholic, Daddy is beautiful and you want him dead").

I'm just so relieved to see that all of this sh!t wasn't just in my life and I didn't make it up. Let's get better together, eh?

La Belette Rouge said...

Anony: Thank you so much for finding this old post and reading it. I am so glad it was meaningful to you.

I could not agree more that denying reality is abusive. It left me unable to trust myself for YEARS!!

No, we did not make this shit up. Why would someone? It is all too horrible? Really, what would be the motive?

Yes, let's.

Please come back again, Anony.Lovely to meet you.