Monday, April 13, 2009

If you are sick of me talking about Igor, charm bracelets and my mother it is best not to read this one

Saturday morning I was in bed. He-weasel brought me coffee and an apple pastry( this was an attempt to make up for something silly he said on Friday night and his hope to get my sulky semi-silence to stop, which I had managed to maintain for over 12 hours, 8 of them occurred when I was sleeping). As I ate breakfast in bed with my laptop I started searching on Google for "mother's+using+children+as+symbolic+phallus substitutes". I was afraid that this phrase that my psychoanalyst, Igor, had left me with might end me up on a porn website. Happily, I was wrong. Instead of on a creepy porn site I ended up on Google books preview of Mary Kelly's "Imaging Desire."

Mary Kelly is one of my favorite artists. She is best known for her work, Post-Partum Document . "This large-scale installation work both visualizes and analyses the mother–child relationship of Kelly and her son over a period of six years, and includes drawings, diagrams, objects and sound recordings." Post-Partum Document was later published in book form. Mary's post partum project is the high-art equivalent of a baby book/scrap book only Mary analyzes hers through the lens of Freudian, Lacanian and other cultural theorists which I don't imagine occurs at many scrap book conventions or local scrapbook shops.

Let me share what my search term lead me to and what Mary had to say on the topic of mother's using their children to fill an emptiness:

"According to Freud, castration anxiety for the man is often expressed in fantasy as the loss of arms, legs, hair, teeth, eyes, or the penis itself. When he describes castration fears for the woman, this imaginary scenario takes the form of losing her loved objects, especially her children; the child is going to grow up, leave her, reject her, perhaps die. In order to delay, disavow, that separation she has already in a way acknowledged, the woman tends to fetishize the child by dressing him up, by continuing to feed him no matter how old he gets, or simply by having another "little one." So perhaps in place of the more familiar notion of pornography, it is possible to talk about the mother's memorabilia-the way she saves things-first shoes, photographs, locks of hair or school reports. A trace, a gift, a fragment of narrative, all of these can be seen as transitional objects, not in Winnicott's sense, as surrogates, but in Lacan's terms, as emblems of Desire."

All this got me thinking about my longing for evidence of my mother's love for me in my blog post on Friday and of my loss over the "me" charm from my mother's charm bracelet and grief over the fact that there is no evidence of my childhood: no pictures of me with my mother, none of my artwork, school work or report cards and how I dreamed of making a charm bracelet for the child I never had. In the same blog post I talked about collecting Lily's teeth and wanting to make or have someone to make a scrapbook for her and then the very next day I find this.
It made me more aware of how my desire to document her puppyhood is an emblem of my desire for a baby and for Lily to stay a puppy.

It is likely that if I had discovered post-modern theory when I was 18 I would have gotten a MFA in art and maybe a PhD in cultural theory and has fewer job skills and larger student loans so it is probably for the best that I didn't find Mary Kelly, Jenny Holzer or Barbara Krueger earlier. If I had I would be making charm bracelets that tell the story of my childhood, infertility, Oedipal battles, and how I am sublimating my desire for a child with my Lily love. Really, these charm bracelets of desire, loss, grief and Freudian figurines might be hanging in galleries next to Jenny Holzer's plaques or at least on my wrist. If only I could convince WendyB to make "Emblems of Desire" charm bracelets. Really, they would be much more clever and interesting than Italian charm bracelets or Aaron Basha shoe charms.

Oh, and, Lily has lost three more teeth over the weekend and I'll have you know they are all safely placed in a plastic bag.

Photo #1 is from Mary Kelly's Post-Partum series.
Photo #2 is Jenny Holzer's plaque from her Truism series.
Here is a nice explanation of Mary Kelly's work if you are interested.

55 comments:

pretty face said...

You know, I never knew dogs lost their puppy teeth.

The above is just one of the many fascinating things this blog post taught me. I really admire how you talk about your own psychology and things such as sublimating with Lily love so lucidly and calmly.

Thanks x

aghtheinlaws said...

Oh how I love this post and I'm all for the post modern cultural theory indulgence. I will never tire of your posts I find them illuminating and treasure the fact you share so well.

Paula said...

I missed your posts so much! I am drinking them up like they are an expensive champagne. I am so sorry the past few weeks it seemed have been rough- yay for He-weasel bringing you breakfast in bed, and I hope this next week brings you some much needed peaceful mind rest.

Mardel said...

I didn't know dogs lost their puppy teeth, although logically I see no reason why they wouldn't. I don't remember any of my puppies losing their puppy teeth, although I was just a child then, so perhaps that explains it.

You always teach me so many new things; sometimes things I don't want to think about as they point out my own foibles, but really it is always rewarding and refreshing.

Savvy Mode SG said...

i didn't know puppies have baby teeth as well. my niece is going to the teeth phase now too. yes, i am feelings about my relationshiop is not quite right but i can't pin point it or am i just thinking too much.

La Belette Rouge said...

Pretty Face: I have had some losing teeth dreams and it always makes me panic. But, seeing Lily lose her teeth makes me feel a combination of sadness and pride. Weird, huh?

La Belette Rouge said...

aghtheinlaws: Thank you for the kind comment. As a fellow Barthes find I didn't think you'd mind my post-modern ponderings.;-)

La Framéricaine said...

While I find the mother-lode mining fascinating and highly worthwhile, as I have plenty of my own to keep me busy and admire your determination to transform your own into art and liberation, it does occur to me to wonder how that "silent treatment" M.O. is working for you in the context of a marriage.

I ask because I cannot abide it, in great part due to having it run on me by my mother throughout her life and would simply leave off relating to anyone who ran it on me with any regularity rather than re-live with it. I hadn't thought of it in a long time and your post brought it back like a flood.

I ran it on Le F a couple of times but it is just too cruel, from my point of view, and he didn't have the tools to deal with it anyway and it was my loss. He's a stoic by nature, so giving him the silent treatment was the psychological equivalent of carrying coals to Newcastle.

I love Barbara Kruger!

Plenty of food for thought in them thar posts, ma belle!

La Belette Rouge said...

Paula: You are too kind!!! But let me tell you that I am so happy to see lovely you that I would love to pop some champagne.

He-weasel is good at breakfast in bed. I am a lucky weasel.

Mardel:Thank you for your lovely comment. I didn't know about puppy teeth either. My cats never lost their teeth or if they did they buried them( very cat like).

I am quite sure you have no foibles. Me, I am loaded with them. ;-)

La Belette Rouge said...

La Framéricaine:Thank you for asking about it. The silent treatment technique is one my father taught me with great skill. I am not proud of this coping method but Igor and I talked a lot about it and here is what we came up with: He-easel comes from a Greek family where everything need sto be talked about immediately an with a lot of energy. I come from a more waspy family that doesn't have that kind of communication style. So, when I am upset I need time to metabolize my feelings so I know how I feel and He-weasel has a hard time giving me that space as he wants to talk about it now.But, I don't know how I feel now. So, my silence creates space for me to process and once I have then I can rationally talk about how I feel.

I LOVE-LOVE-LOVE art with text( or even subtext;-). Love it!!
Have you seen Barbara Krueger's elevator at the Broad LACMA?

LENORENEVERMORE said...

I love to love darling...I think Igor is easy to love...your mom on the other hand...errr errr... 'F 'for forgiveness non?! ~XO* as always

Couture Carrie said...

Thanks for introducing me to Mary Kelly! Really interesting work.

Love the new profile pic.

And wanted to say thank you also for always leaving the wittiest comments on my posts!

xoxox,
CC

La Belette Rouge said...

LENORENEVERMORE:LOVE is good. Forgiveness is important and Igor is helping me do both:-)

La Belette Rouge said...

Couture Carrie: Glad you like Mary and my bubble bath weasel.

I am often dumbfounded by all the beauty on your blog and it would be pretty easy to just say "it is so pretty. I like it." You deserve more than that. You clearly put sooooo much work into your blog and it shows.

La Framéricaine said...

Yes! I have seen it and I went to see her big retrospective at the MOCA and I bought the catalog, which, as you know, is in a box in central France screaming for release, no doubt.

I also almost always do collage with words for trying circumstances. That's the central reason that the blahg is soooo satisfying. If it was only text or only images, I couldn't do it, but with both I'm as happy as a pig in shit--which I've heard is a misunderstanding. Apparently, pigs are really clean, thus very close to god.

I don't talk about "issues" to Le F either. I took a vow very early in our marriage to neither treat him to silence nor talk to him about our relationship. So far, it's worked out really well. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

I'm not sure that I ever know how I feel, but I always know what I think. Except for pissed off, that is!

Happy processing. Oh, BTW, before I forget. I just read Augusten Burroughs's memoir of his father, "A Wolf at the Table." Have you read it? Masterful, in my opinion, but I desire of getting any of it out coherently! Check it out. It dovetails with the story he told in "Running with Scissors" which I also liked.

La Belette Rouge said...

La Framéricaine: The MOCA show was great. I also have her book in storage. Le sigh!

I break both of your marriage rules I do talk about our relationship and I do silence. But, we seem to be happy.:-)

I am guessing you are a thinking type in Myers-Briggs. Oui? I, as you can guess, am a feeling. It takes me to turn feelings into thoughts.

I did read Augusten Burroughs's "A Wolf at the Table."and it was a HARD read but worth it. It is the most haunting book I read last year. I liked it much better than any of his other books.

Completely Alienne said...

Well, I don't tire of Igor, charm bracelets or your mother so keep going dear Belette!
I never could do silence, it seems to be against my nature. My husband did it though - he could keep it up for over 24 hours and it always hurt though eventually I learned to leave him alone for as long as I could bear until he was prepared to talk.

La Framéricaine said...

Haunting is a very good word to describe his book.

I particularly loved his description of the events, near the end of the book, that took place and allowed him to experience the pure unadulterated blast of fatherly love that he had been missing for the entirety of life.

Bingo on the Myers-Briggs! ENTJ/INTJ depending upon the year in which it was taken. I must thank you for reminding me of that.

They always recommend that I become a Captain in the military or a civilian employee is a military purchasing department. I'm so happy that you knew that. It causes me difficulty socially because I have to "remember" to notice the part about "feeling" since it is never the first thing I attend to.

I've already had at least three feeling vs thinking events with sig others in the past 24 hours that risk causing me problems later. Thank you for the reminder, I always forget and things go to hell in a handbasket pretty quickly.

Happy feeling!

La Belette Rouge said...

Completely Alienne: Thank you. I would hate to be a tiresome bore.
Silence is not the best strategy and I wish I could be more chatty when I am upset but I feel my throat close up. My weasel hates that I do it; he is a big talker.

La Belette Rouge said...

La Framéricaine:I had a hard time reading "A wolf.." it was tough and yet worth it. That last bit about meeting the man at the reading who was a father brought me to sobbing tears.

I am an ENFJ/INFJ. It takes a F to know a T.;-) As a F I find Ps harder to deal with the than a T. I am a strong J.
Happy thinking to you!

Kristen said...

Once again you have the best He-Weasel ever!

That quote (second picture) really resonates with me.

You don't need charm bracelets, you are more than charming enough!

~Tessa~Scoffs said...

How about a charm bracelet made out of Lily's teeth? Just the other day there was a woman on Jeopardy with earrings made of her own wisdom teeth. Puppy teeth would be smaller and whiter and cuter.

WendyB said...

I actually have a strong desire to do a bracelet like that now. I'm not kidding.

La Framéricaine said...

I too was moved to tears, but, as you can well imagine, I was elated for our hero. Better a delayed understanding/comprehension of father love, than no father love at all. It goes without saying that much of my father-deprivation has been made up for in my 20 years of marriage to a man 16 years my senior.

You have no idea what a lovely contribution to made to my well-being by tripping to that thinking/feeling dynamic. It provided a substantial lift to my flailing of the day.

Imogen Lamport said...

Belette - I too have dreams of losing mouthfuls of teeth - I asked a psychologist once on the meaning, she was more Jungian I think and pointed to the meaning as "needing to spit something out, or tell someone something" and interestingly, whenever I have these dreams now I wonder who is it that I need to say something to, and what am I holding back - it is always true that I'm bottling.

I love your explanation about silent treatment, and here I thought I was just being passive-agressive!

I too am an INTJ/ENTJ (depending on the year, I'm more E than I now, but still have I tendencies I think).

I can so see Wendy B doing your charm bracelet.

I remember when my first dog lost his teeth, it was a surprise when I found them on the carpet, stupidly I didn't keep them! Have them bronzed for your new charm bracelet.

What interesting materials you're finding on the mother child relationship - so is it good or bad that my MIL kept every single thing my husband ever wore or did? I feel it's overkill and she's lived too much through her kids. I keep the significant things, first artworks in different developmemtal stages, nicest piece of baby clothing, but not everything.

The one thing my kids will never doubt is that I love them as I think I tell them each 4000 times per day.

I so feel for you and the issues you have with your mother. I have a whole boatload of separate issues relating to the death of my mother when I was so young.

K.Line said...

I had a dream when M was 2 mos old in which I wondered when we would be separate people. In the dream, it was determined it would be when her baby teeth came out. In the end, that started when she was 3mos old (v early).

Years later, when I started to make sense of "maternal difficulties" (and knew without a doubt that I wouldn't have another child), I finally began to understand (viscerally) that every woman has to come to terms with the fact that eventually she will not have more children. For some, there are (by choice or no) no children. But every woman finally confronts what comes next.

It's a liberating confrontation. Trust me! Big teeth are the sign of new, exciting things for everyone... Kxo

K.Line said...

Oh, and I love the idea of the tooth bracelet. A WendyB original is the bomb!

TopSurf said...

Thank you for sharing Mary Kelly. I am at awe of your posts, each one is a treasure. I can't tell you how happy I am to have found your blog.

La Belette Rouge said...

Imogen: I usually read my tooth loss dream as loss of bite or a regression to an earlier time. But, each dream requires a different reading.

Igor was very supportive of my "silent treatment". I was a bit surprised by that.

I wonder if bloggers are more often T than F. Huh?

I would LOVE a WendyB charm bracelet.

I think Freud would not be a fan of keeping all your kids stuff. Kelly would say that it is okay as long as you analyze it all.

Losing your mother when you were young had to be so hard and has had to impact the way you mother.I bet you are even a better mother for it. Don't you think?

La Belette Rouge said...

WendyB: Really?????

La Framéricaine: I have been making up for my father by going to psychoanalysis. It seems to be working.;-)
I am so glad it helped. I do think that the impact of typology is often underrated. I am really pleased it helped.

La Belette Rouge said...

Kristen: I do.
It does with me two.
You are sweet and charming too.:-)

Tessa:Lily's teeth are so little that they might be too small to make them into charms. They are sweet.

La Belette Rouge said...

K.Line: I do wonder if my holding onto the charms or Lily's teeth is about a fear of loss and an expectation of a day when I won't have her and will only have the mementos to turn to.

Teeth are such a loaded symbol and their loss and gain are symbols of huge developmental progress and loss.

Lily's losing her teeth makes her more baby like even as she is growing up. It is a strange paradox.

I so want a Wendy bracelet!

La Belette Rouge said...

TopSurf:Your very kind compliment made my day. Thank you.:-)

miss cavendish said...

I have been teaching Lacan and Freud in my gender studies class and what you say makes sense. When my bulldog Marilla (who I called my bullgirl) was little, I saved her teeth in a tiny little papier mache heart container. They did not age well ;-( . I understand your impulse to save and memorialize and am very impressed by your ability to analyze current behaviour (sometimes it takes yeeears to understand why we do what we did). Love the images you posted.

susan said...

I wonder if Lily is looking like a 6 year old child with gaps where her baby teeth used to be. I love the smiles of sixers.

I just hope she won't need braces :-)

La Belette Rouge said...

Miss Cavendish: Do you teach Nancy Chodorow too? I like her too. I wish I could take your class. I love this stuff.

I am nothing if not hyper-self-aware, hence my impulse towards memoir.

I hope Lily's teeth will do better in plastic.

La Belette Rouge said...

Susan: Lily has perfectly straight teeth;well, she did.;-) She has almost no teeth in the back. It makes eating a little hard for her. Poor baby.

linda said...

dear belette, I do apologize for not being here today...I had a doctor day and it just wipes me out with the acupuncture and everything else...I am so sorry you are having a difficult time(seems to be putting it mildly) over your mother and therapy and JUSTABOUTEVERYTHING! you know how to reach me if you feel the need of an understanding compassionate soul to pour your heart out to...besides Igor that is ;)

we have the same mother, I hear all your pain over all these thingss..I have been in therapy forever for all this stuff and I know there is not ever a quick fix...you are going through rough stuff right now but I think you will find a light at the end of the tunnel that will be a great blessing to you and your work...I don't know what it is , just that I think it's coming soon to you...I can't say everything I feel in this comment but know I love you, you are very dear to me, please take good care of you, like heweasel does and give lily a kiss for me...i'm waiting to hear back from alicia but have given her the go ahead...then she's silent...a little weird ...
xoxoxo

La Belette Rouge said...

Linda: I hope you are feeling much better and that you get some good rest. I am feeling much better. I feel like I am out of the pain phase and into the processing phase(at least for now).

You are such a dear, thank you. Lily and He-weasel are giving me extra TLC. He-weasel even made dinner.

Fret not about Alicia. You will hear from her, I'm sure, and Lily's sister will soon be yours!!!! I am so excited for you.

sallymandy said...

Hi Belette: You stirred many things in me as I read your post. I appreciate your depth and honesty. Superficial first: I too didn't know doggies lose their teeth, but we also have a little pile of Westie teeth at our house--disgustingly gathering dust on a shelf, actually.

Deeper level: the mother/child issues just leave me wrung out and hanging out to dry. I don't know anything else that's forced me to a spiritual slash-and-burn through life more than this. Very thankfully, I am the mother of one daughter--and I now know that mother/daughter issues have a whole re-generation from this end.

I keep erasing huge sentences here because I have so much to say, but not sure a comment is the right place to say it! It deserves and entire post as you have done. Suffice it to say that I've thought many of your same thoughts, and the fear of being one of "those mothers" has been ever present since I became one.

I completely understand sublimation too. I did it with Kitty before Baby was born, and now that Baby is almost Teenager, I do it with Westies and Blog.

Lovely, dear. Thank you.

Randal Graves said...

You don't psychoanalyze our comments, do you? ;-)

*SparkleMirror* Kiln-Fired Art Studio said...

Anything I say here will be premature... deep and thought-provoking content... despite (or maybe because of) my psych degree, I'll have to let this one subconsciously cook for a while. Thanks for the sparked kindling.

Christina Lee said...

just came across your blog from Imogen-love it- will be back!

A Woman Of No Importance said...

Losing teeth dreams are, as I'm sure you know, beautiful Belle, dreams about loss and death... All of life's rich tapestry that you and I have dealt with in our relatively young lives, non?

I love the art you have chosen to showcase here, Belette, so fascinating and inextricably linked to the key that Igor gave you to the door you have unlocked... We are never far from someone who is having a very similar experience to us, methinks, and finding them makes us feel more whole, I always sense...

I hope you can add to the charms that you own, Belle, by adding the fragments of love we leave you here xxx

La Belette Rouge said...

Sallymandy:Thanks so much for your very thoughtful comment.
Superficial first: It is nice to know that I am not the only Westie Mom who holds onto her baby-dog's teeth.

Deeper level:I hear you on the spiritual slash-and-burn. I am the mother to my 84 year old mother who is not a mother to me and I couldn't have a child of my own and I am still mad and kicking rocks about it. Even being a Mom to Lily makes me more aware of what a good mom I could have been( to a human child).
I hope you do an entire post. I would love to hear your story.
Sublimation ain't all bad, is it? Especially if we know what and why we are doing it.;-)

La Belette Rouge said...

Randal : I save all my comments and take them to Igor and read them to him so he can analyze all of you.;-)

SparkleMirror* : I think you subconscious is wise and brimming with wisdom and creativity. Happy to add spark to the Sparkle.

Christina Lee: I thank Imogen for sending you over. Lovely to meet you and thrilled you will be back!:-)

La Belette Rouge said...

A Woman Of No Importance:Oh, yep, there has been loss and death and things falling apart and out.

I am endlessly touched by arts ability to touch the personal in such an archetypal way.

Your love, comments and genuine concern never seems like fragments. Rather, they feel like patchworks on a quilt( more comforting and warm than disconnected charms). I am not sure why that is but that is how it feels.

Thank you, lovely.

Jen said...

Sweet Lily could always have a charm collar! I have a box that I keep my chihuahua's "baby clothes" in...so you aren't the weirdest weasel on the block :)

Lisa said...

It's hard not to feel like you have to warn us when you want to talk about something you fear you'll be judged for, isn't it?

You know, when I read a post such as this, I alternate between feeling sad with you because you so want a child and feeling guilty because I don't think I appreciate my children enough.

Then I read how you feel about your mother and I get very anxious with fretting that I'm being a bad, narcissistic mother.

All of these are things I worry about being judged for.

But when I read that you have no evidence of your childhood, I nearly cried. That is so cruel. I mean, I understand if there's been a fire or flood, for example, but save something!!!!!! I have an obnoxious amount of keepsakes in Rubbermaid containers because I have felt compelled to hang on to certain things for my kids. Not for me, but for them.

I'm so sorry that your parents did not do this for you. How could they not know that those little tangible items are often what tie us to our memories of youth.

Do what you like with Lily's teeth. What makes YOU happy. Who care's if it's symbolic or sublimation? Who does that hurt? No one.

sallymandy said...

Belette: thank you; you're such a generous writer to answer people long and heartfelt-style here. :)

Someday, maybe a long post on mother/daughter child issues. I'm just dipping my toes in to the personal so far. Thank you for that encouragement though. Have a lovely day, please.

miss cavendish said...

Yes--I do teach Chodorow! We just finished her theory of why girls identify with their mothers . . .

La Belette Rouge said...

Jen: I am happy to being such good company.:-)

Lisa: Your incredibly honest comment touched me so much that it inspired an email to you. Too much stirred up to share here. !hank you, Lisa!

La Belette Rouge said...

sallymandy: I look forward to your future dips into the personal pool. I know you have wisdom to share. I can just feel it.:-0

Miss cavendish: I love Chodorow's book, "The Reproduction of Mothering." I really want to take your class. Would you share your syllabus with me? I would be curious to see what else you read.

sallymandy said...

Belette: You inspired and encouraged me. I wrote something personal. I posted it on Friday--about my annniversary. Thanks for that, and xo.

La Belette Rouge said...

sallymandy: I am delighted. I will be right over!!!!:-)